Vista Only Paid $12 Million
Vista's Hollandia Park just opened with a skate park, softball fields, dog park, picnic benches, playgrounds, and an amphitheater. All on 30 acres for the bargain price of $12 million. Is this park 3 times better than the Hall property proposal? I doubt it. Did Vista have a $24 million coupon?
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"In 2008, you have no park, so softball, no soccer, no walking, no community access," said Bayer. "It is a wasted asset. And there are huge bills such as consultants and attorneys fees, opportunity costs, community resources overused and polarization of the community. What happens if there is no change in the current approach? There will be winners and several losers. There are also likely to be lawsuits and three more years before the park is used realistically."
Dick Bayer of the La Jolla Center for Dispute Resolution
Hall Property will cost $100,000,000 for the regional sports complex that will be used mmostly by people who are not Encinitas tax payers.
I read about this in the paper. Right away I noticed they only have one full sized field with lights, but many more trails.
The male majority on Encinitas City Council is so eager to have a sports complex designed for regional sports tournaments. They are NOT listening to a majority of residents.
At the Cardiff forum there was someone taking votes on whether the sports complex should be built, or whether the plans should be scaled back to a community park with only two full sized sports fields, plus the baseball diamonds, etc.
We were told that Barbara Cobb, the moderator, would be counting the votes. She told me personally that was not true! I heard nothing about the results of this, and feel that the vote was really designed to promote building the park with five full sized sports fields. The kids typically play soccer on half fields. So this is like having 10 fields, plus three softball fields. I say, keep the softball diamonds, but scale the park back to two full sized fields, with lights during limited hours.
The council will vote on rejecting the planning decission to reduce the number of fields on Monday the 20th. Stocks, Bond and Dallager are expected to reject the planning recomendations no matter what they hear about the majority of the community wanting a community park.
What can you do? Talk at the meeting, write council,write to reporters,tell others and do what you can to can Stocks and Bond.
Their organization makes big time money on the soccer
Leagues.
The majority of the community wants a community park, not a sports park.
Vote Rachelle and Maggie.
I was at the Cardiff Forum. It was Bob Holt who conducted the informal poll on the Hall property. Barbara Cobb only gave him permission. He wanted to do the same in Olivenhain, but didn't receive permission.
The results? Out of about 55 responses, around 45 prefered a reduced number of fields. I'm not sure of the exact counts. Of course, this was not a scientific poll, but it agrees with the city's own Godbe Survey, which showed small support (less than 20%) for active sport fields.
There is an easy way to solve this disagreement about the park design. Put it to a vote, and let the people who are going to pay for it decide. The city council bypassed the public when it decided to buy the property and pay for it with Lease Revenue Bonds. The whole process was shrouded in secrecy with most decisions made in closed door sessions. This is not a good way to conduct public business.
Hall Community Park?
http://leucadia.blogspot.com/
There have been tons of people asking for a vote or asking the council to tell the city why they believe that the majority want a sports park.
They won't budge, negotiate or comment.
It sure seem that most want a community park.
What can we do.
That story on the Leucadia Blog tells the story.
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